Tracy Alloway and Joe Weisenthal join The Ezra Klein Show for a conversation about economic uncertainty, artificial intelligence, and the limits of familiar indicators.
The reading list below records the books recommended in this episode’s published show notes. Follow the original source for the full conversation and context.
Guest: Tracy Alloway and Joe Weisenthal
Episode: ‘This Is Something That Traditional Economics Isn’t Prepared to Deal With’
Episode date: December 23, 2025
Books recommended by Tracy Alloway and Joe Weisenthal
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Breakneck
Dan Wang draws on years in China to examine its drive to build and engineer the future. His account uses China’s achievements and failures to sharpen a comparison with the United States.
North Woods
A Marriage at Sea
The Digital Reversal
Orality and Literacy
No Sense of Place
An independent reading guide. Not affiliated with The Ezra Klein Show or The New York Times. Recommendations are sourced from the episode’s published show notes.